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The wall. not happening. now they seem to think that the wall is being built even if americans are paying for it. >> it's important to remember if you go back to 2016 a lot of those people at the rallies, when they were interviewed afterwards, they didn't think it was going to happen. they liked the rhetoric behind it. they liked what it represented. so, with trump's base this isn't going to be a problem and trump never wanted to stick to the truth or facts. he's just going to keep saying i'm building a wall. it's going great. >> should democrats use that against him, you promised this and it ...

Build almost 500 miles of new wall where no other wall exists by the end of next year when so far none of that has happened over the three years of the trump presidency. there are just more obstacles being raised in the process. >> certainly it's an interesting point. i want to play with you something that ari heard from a trump aide who made the argument that mexico is actually paying for the wall, believe it or not. listen to this. >> mexico is paying a lot for our southern security, and that -- >> with the wall. >> i would call it a virtual wall. >> that's your closing argument? they're pay...

Immigration. so, this has been a signature issue for president trump. but realistically, was this all a promise really that could never be kept? i mean as this thing started going on in his presidency, was it ever expected to be smooth sailing for the president to try to get the money and build this wall? >> well, it's strange ayman because past presidents have been successful at this. under george w. bush there were about 350 miles of border wall constructed. but in the areas that the bush administration left out, there was a reason in a lot of cases. sometimes it was because there was a rive...

Bret stephens, thank you very much as well. coming up on "morning joe." now, it's his business, not my business. why he supports a president who wants to erect a medieval barrier on the border of texas bhot wan. who wants to use eminent domain. who wants to declare an unconstitutional emergency to build that wall. that's the business of the senator of texas i can assure you that in colorado if a president said he was going to use eminent domain to erect a barrier across the state of colorado, across the rocky mountains of colorado, he was going to steal the property of our farmers and ranche...

Year raling against the president's plan for a border call. "the new york times" now reports construction of the wall has been slow going as we've reported all year, in part because the texans who own the land have to be coaxed or ersed to sell it whether they want to or not. we have that story next on "morning joe." or not we have that story next on "morning joe." as a struggling want to or. we have that story next on "morning joe." they want to or . we have that story next on "morning joe." o sell it whethe or not. we have that story next on "morning joe." want to or not. we have that story ...