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The manafort case, they weren't interested in manafort, they were interested in squeezing manafort against president trump. turned out there was nothing against president trump. there was no illegal collusion, no collusion any kind with the russians and the investigation should have ended the day that the decision was made, but it continued on and on with collateral crimes, many of which were not even committed, and others if they were committed could've easily been prosecuted by ordinary prosecutors. >> laura: bingo. >> i think will see the death knell of the special prosecutor's office. >> l...

Manafort against president trump. turned out there was nothing against president trump. there was no illegal collusion no collusion any kind with the russians and the investigation should have ended the day that the decision was made, but it asntinued on and on with collateral crimes, many of which were not even committed, and others if they were committed could've easily been prosecuted by ordinary prosecutors. >> laura: bingo. >> i think will see the death now of the special counsel office. >> laura: that performance by mueller, i got into a big row by one of our favorites last night because...

Anything to do with collusion, h they had to do with more collateral issues. >> harris: former member of the doj says we don't have the answer to the big question. >> we do not. >> harris: okay. let's move on. as well allies are reportedly urging the president to pardon those involved in the russia investigation. some conservatives voicing their opinions on this pretty strongly, robert. because they feel like, look, general flynn is an example. what do you think about that? >> i think from the president's weive it doesn't make sentence to pardon anybody right now. >> i think so far there is no...