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An official transcript of roger stone's testimony in the house intelligence committee, suggesting the special counsel is near the end of his investigation of the long-time trump ally and adviser. we are joined by our senior legal analyst, former u.s. attorney. thanks for joining us. do you think it is a sign potentially we could see roger stone indicted by the special counsel? >> yeah, i think it is the latest sign. i mean roger stone himself along with one or two other people have said publicly, i guess to get ahead of the story, that he expects to be indicted on some, as he put it, collatera...

This collateral matter of the dossier and how it was prepared, and did the fbi have any role in paying for it, and all of this is a side show, for the fact that i think that they're going to find that the dossier is more valid than invalid when they look at the heart of the matter. he may be in this be careful what you wish for situation when he gets access to what did the fbi do to validate the dossier findings, who did steele speak to in the fbi to, you know, confirm to them that this was legitimate intelligence that they was gathering, so while nunes is on a bit of a side show, the conseque...

>> okay. >> but they're going to treat it a different way. it'll require a much more imaginative communications plan, frankly. >> well, michael, let me ask you, if you are on mueller's team or you are robert mueller, and you are aware of that, there's the legal case you want to make and then there's also obviously this politicized environment, how much do you -- how much does that seep into things? how much does that -- do you take that into account? >> i don't think mueller will take much of the politics of this into account. bob is a pretty serious guy who faces facts as he sees them and mak...

Take much of the politics of this into account. bob is a serious guy who faces facts as he sees them and makes decisions about those facts. i think if he's indicted, somebody on a collateral matter, hypothetically, it's a manafort for his personal business dealings with ukraine, and that's what he's indicting him on now, well, that sends a message to flynn, because flynn is also alleged to have had financial dealings with turkey. that sends messages to others that maybe flynn and manafort will talk about the jared kushner meeting, or the president's efforts to obstruct the justice department i...

Played for the jury. number one, his equivocation right now the best evidence is his own words that he spoke to the reporter. it shows his inflection, it shows his hesitation instead of just having t-- >> is there another legal basis for playing that recording? >> the best evidence of the recording that happened back then. even if he testifies to it now, he's testifying, quite honestly, in a very different attitude and inquiry. >> that's not a legal basis. >> i understand the court's concern. >> so, for impeachment purposes, no, it may not be played because his answer is the same today as it w...