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Capability. remember, this is where al qaeda planned, recruited, financed, trained to attack the united states of america. they didn't do it in those other countries. they did it in afghanistan. and they did it because the taliban gave them safe haven. and remember, the taliban has a lot more in common with isis and al qaeda than they do any western notion of governance. so some notion that that's all suddenly going to change i think is both naive and dangerous. so we leave, we have the same problem staring at us. and yes, we do have al qaeda and other countries. we do have methods we're using...

With the fact that our embassy is closed and our intelligence footprint at least from what it was is greatly diminished and recall director cia burns' own words when he testified before the withdrawal, that we would be degrading our intelligence collection capability if the military withdrew. eric: what does it mean if we're going to -- be blind.>> i don't think we'o be blind. i think this will require the intelligence community and the cia in particular to develop a new paradigm for intelligence collection. the key for us in the intelligence community is to find and fix part of the operation ...

We will evacuate our embassy, likely never to go back there for at least a decade plus. the brits will do the same. other international players will do like wise. and the taliban will retake kabul. and you know, neil, we've had in place for the last 20 years, and i've been dealing with this issue for far more than that, we've had people that really have done and made some very strategically bad decisions. counterterrorism today is no longer the threat that it was, say, when the u.s.s. cole was struck in 2000, or when, you know, tanzania and kenya, our embassies there were struck, so, things ha...

Methods may not have been discussed, but the information that the president shared they would be easily ascertainable, right? >> in fact our story says clearly that the president did not discuss -- did not name this partner, the source of this intelligence. >> the country. >> did not talk about the particular collection capability that was responsible for this intelligence but was providing details that came because of this intelligence stream. and the worry among a lot of the security officials that we talked to was russia, which has very capable intelligence services of its own, could try to...

Overseas, jim's right. we focus our information and our collection capability because we're looking at it internationally. domestically it's much, much more difficult. people who are not with any organization difficult to pick up. it's a massive problem and law enforcement has got a lot of work to do in order to keep us safer here, protecting us from what happens overseas ironically is a lot easier, richard. >> colonel jacobs, thank you, jim cavanaugh, thank you for stopping by this hour. >> thank you. >> firefighters in dubai still trying to put out the massive fire at the luxury high rise. y...