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Been to get accurate intel on putin, given his apparent pred lix for him staying isolated? >> general walters, the supreme nato commander, made a comment, our miscalculations on the capabilities of the russian army was perhaps due to a collection gap. inherently, intelligence is almost incomplete, so it's impe imperfect. let's say the cia did its job to the utmost and had eyes and years all around putin and we were hearing and seeing everything putin heard. well, if we're getting the same intelligence on which putin made his miscalculations, we'd be coming up with the same assessments. so, i t...

Because general walters, the supreme nato commander, made a comment the other day about, well, our -- our miscalculations on the capabilities of the russian army was perhaps due to a collection gap. i mean, inherently intelligence is always incomplete so it's imperfect. there is always a collection gap but let's say the cia, which is a strategic collector, did its job to the utmost and it had eyes and ears all around putin. and we were hearing and seeing everything putin heard. well, if we are getting the same intelligence on which putin made his miscalculations, we would be coming up with the...

Cons consular would ask how many times they met before. but it gets back to the question of how do we determine -- what questions could we ask? what things can we look at that shows a person's intention to do harm when they get to our shores? >> you served, as you knowledged, as a clandestine officer in the cia in the middle east. you served for about nine years before becoming a united states congressman. does the u.s. have the ability right now, based on everything you know, to infiltrate isis at a high level in clandestine ways to get intelligence, track individuals who pose a threat? >> th...