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And so to both of our panelists, why understand that instances of Sexual Assault against students who are in rotc programs should be investigated and reported in the same manner as other campus Sexual Assaults, i guess my questions are, have you undertaken any formal or informal cooperation with the Defense Department on the issue of sexual balances in rotc programs and College Campuses. Can you tell me why the department of education has not apparently spoken specifically to this aspect . And there would ask both of you respond. Thank you. What, i am sorry to have disappointed you in the task...

Been in our investigative space working specifically with rotc students. One complaint in the k12 space, a young woman came with a complaint she had not been able to be promoted to commander in her army rotc. We investigated and found harrowing facts about the way she was being treated and the rotc lead talked to her in sexually discriminatory ways in that school. Her mom thanked us at the end of the resolution to let us know she was the first young one ever to be promoted on that camp. We are working in this space. We are trying to send a clear message. Specifically to your question about the...

Can do this, this a festival of ideas? or is this supposed to be a dinner party? >> so when you look at the mile stones, we'll put it in the college context. when did it all turn? i thought college was the one place you could go and have free expression and trade ideas? >> in my book, it's a social sciences detective story him we look at what happened in 2013, 2014, prior to that, the best constituency were the students, themselves. few were going to get in trouble for what you said on campus, it was almost always administrators who got in trouble. attitudes shifted sometime around 2013, 2014 ...