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And we'll be hearing changes in what rudy giuliani has to say for sure tomorrow morning or through the day tomorrow. michael avenatti thank you very much for joining us with this breaking news tonight about the case. >> thank you, lawrence. >> we'll get more lawyers here, jill wine-banks, joyce vance, both msnbc contributors. eugene robinson and collin schaaf. i want to start off where we left with michael avenatti because this is a stunning development in the stormy daniels case that rudy giuliani seemed to me to be saying things that he has learned in his proximity to the president and the p...

Conforming to what the trump defense team is trying to do. and so he may have created a whole bunch of problems that they're going to try to repair and we'll be hearing changes in what rudy giuliani has to say for sure tomorrow morning or through the day tomorrow. michael avenatti thank you very much for joining us with this breaking news tonight about the case. >> thank you, lawrence. >> we'll get more lawyers here, jill wine-banks, joyce vance, both msnbc contributors. eugene robinson and collin schaaf. i want to start off where we left with michael avenatti because this is a stunning develo...