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and filed against him in the state of new york. phil mattingly history. this is the first time a current or former president has ever been indicted . he will now go back to face that. and while as you noted, this certainly isn't something. that perhaps he wanted or was ever thinking about when he moved down to mar-a-lago full time. it is certainly something that he seems to be embracing in every way that the former president often does both for political benefit. he is a 2024 election candidate already, but also for his supporters as he tries to work whatever is happening right now, ...

Around this because jeff's right that they there is no clear cut way. they're kind of dancing around it rallying around him, but maybe not explicitly him any better example of how the dynamics of the modern day republican party and trump's way within it, then what we've seen from his field of actual and potential rivals. a candidate in some pre trump europe would be indicted on criminal charges that would be an opening as a line of attack and a contrast not the case here. the case here is a rallying around effect, as jeff is saying, because there's such concern about trump's supporters and the...

The president then directed people to perhaps open boxes or move or mishandled documents that sort of lock, stock and barrel obstruction of justice. if it happened the way that reporting seems to suggest that it did. it's quite concerning and ought to be and you know, just so our viewers don't get legal. whiplash here. we want to make clear. what we're talking about is the one of the federal investigations into donald trump where there has been no indictment, yet. we're going to go back to katelyn polantz where in new york there has been an indictment. it is under seal and caitlin been out the...

And filed against him in the state of new york. phil mattingly history. this is the first time a current or former president has ever been indicted . he will now go back to face that. and while as you noted, this certainly isn't something. that perhaps he wanted or was ever thinking about when he moved down to mar-a-lago full time. it is certainly something that he seems to be embracing in every way that the former president often does both for political benefit. he is a 2024 election candidate already, but also for his supporters as he tries to work whatever is happening right now, in this mo...

Visual. evidently you guys can talk about this. i'm sure there have been legal setbacks in terms of the trump people kind of asserting this privilege or another or saying this person shouldn't have to testify. this person can. these things are starting to be beaten back. there are judges who are saying no, i don't think so. and that has you know a broader ramifications for the legacy of this what will happen for other presidents, but it also means that he is he is quite literally. on the defense right now. because a lot of these sort of kind of little legal battles on the way are not going his...