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An american issue, a threat to our democracy. yes, they leaked some documents ,we think. the idea that they actually tampered with the system, the russians have been doing this just about every election and every country that we know. a it's just a little more obvious this time. but imagine that this had happened in 2012 and it was but romney, the man who said russia is our biggest enemy, it was at the receiving end of russia hacking and that the accusation was they reelected barack obama, do you think the democrats on that committee would be over this attack on american democracy? this is pur...

Collude for the trump campaign. we will begin with that with the panel. steve hayes, mercedes schlapp, and tom bevan. tom, your thoughts. >> i thought sessions was passionate and sincere in his defense, and drove a stake through the heart of the collusion argument which is like an undead animal walking around. no evidence. he forcefully argued it today. all in all, i thought it was a spirited defense by him but i don't know it's going to convince anybody, any democrats, anybody who thought that there is collusion or obstruction, he probably didn't change any minds in that regard. >> bret: let'...

Issue, it's not a democrat, it's an american issue, a threat to our democracy. yes, they leaked some documents we think. the idea that they actually tampered with the system, the russians have been doing this just about every election and every country that we know. it's just a little more obvious this time. imagine that this had happened in 2012 and it was but romney, the man who said russia is our biggest enemy, it was at the receiving end of russia hacking and that the accusation was they reelected barack obama, do you think the democrats on that committee would be over this attack on ameri...

Issue, it's not a democrat, it's an american issue, a threat to our democracy. yes, they leaked some documents we think. the idea that they actually tampered with the system, the russians have been doing this just about every election and every country that we know. it's just a little more obvious this time. imagine that this had happened in 2012 and it was but romney, the man who said russia is our biggest enemy, it was at the receiving end of russia hacking and that the accusation was they reelected barack obama, do you think the democrats on that committee would be over this attack on ameri...

>> i'm saying it. >> they have the house, senate. >> russia investigation for political reasons. >> this beyond politics. russia investigation is beyond politics. with the latest revelations you can see this is undermining our democracy, our electoral system. >> the actual hacking. >> the hacking, the altering, maybe, and the dumpings undermine our election. we should have an outside, independent commission to study what that is. we have tried to say this is critical infrastructure. the republicans have resisted that. we must protect the elements mechanism of our elections. >> the collusion ar...