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Heather: so much money investigating collusion which from the beginning the trump campaign said didn't happen and now we have michael cohen saying it didn't happen. >> like many investigations sometimes you unearth worse crimes and that is what we are finding here with possible bank fraud, hush payments, we still have to find out more about what is going on with trump tower in moscow and many other things. we are not done on the collusion front. we have to see what the special counsel says but i also believe there are worse crimes that undermine the office of the presidency coming from the pre...

Only one. so to the extent that people were aligning their testimony to lie to congress, there are others out there, donald trump, jr., being i think the most popular name that you hear coming up, that is going to be one of them. so both on the obstruction front as well as on the collusion front, you can see the tentacles of this case extending to many other individuals. >> mimi, it's always been hard for me personally following the stone situation because i know him to be a lifetime buffoon, an absolute abject buffoon who no one in politics took seriously. so it's always been hard for me to b...

Lie to congress, there are others out there, donald trump, jr., being i think the most popular name that you hear coming up, that is going to be one of them. so both on the obstruction front as well as on the collusion front, you can see the tentacles of this case extending to many other individuals. >> mimi, it's always been hard for me personally following the stone situation because i know him to be a lifetime buffoon, an absolute abject buffoon who no one in politics took seriously. so it's always been hard for me to believe he's at the center of anything even interesting in a political ca...

His firing caused mike rod rosenstein, the deputy attorney general. the inspector general and his report, they laid out the case for firing james comey. on the obstruction part, or doesn't seem to be -- there is no case there on the collusion front. what premise take place in regard to anything russia related? where is that investigation right now? >> juan: ethic it's pretty obvious. the present was minna believing a statement about the russia tower meetings to, in fact -- to tell a lie. to see it as an obstruction of justice and joy he was involved in it i think we don't want to miss that we ...

About in the collusion front. on the mueller front he has a lot to worry about because it's a political hit. the mueller team is there to politically damage the president. not criminally on the collusion front. there is no collusion. there is brother collusion. nothing to worry about. one of the things we hit on in this book that is critical, we did a ton of research on this. ed, this was a movie script. okay? this collusion thing was a prepackaged narrative by glenn simpson and fusion g.p.s. all they did was erase the names and put donald j. trump in there. if you don't belief me. go back and...