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He thinks he's his best strategist and legal defender. that's why he doesn't have professionals around him. that's why people are walking out the door. he exposes himself, however, to a great deal of danger by simply deciding to go in and wing it, which has been the style that has worked so well for him. it worked for him in politics. it worked for him in commerce. it worked for him in hollywood. this, though, is kind of the end of the line because as we've seen in endless numbers of cases, all the fbi has to do is kind of stop you on the street or stop you anywhere, have a conversation with y...

Staffed up and deployed the resources. >> why are republicans backing up trump? i know republicans love to cut taxes for the rich. that's sort of endemic, but why are they going along with the russian cover up? why are they so pro moscow all of a sudden? >> two things. >> never were. >> the pro moscow thing is sort of happening under obama. they thought he was a stronger leader. the other thing to remember, this is what you always see with trump, it's not just the russian collusion. collusion may or may not be illegal. that's impeachment issue. they're concerned about obstruction of justice. t...

Whatever collusion may mean. it didn't seem to amount to a crime thus far. but there is a value to an independent investigation. i also felt mueller was a bad choice. he had a close relationship with comey. he also interviewed for comey's job. i'm still astonished that he was even on the list of a special counsel. having said all that, he will finish this job. it would be a huge mistake to terminate robert mueller. it would make the situation much worse. and i'm going to trust him to do a fair job. i've been a critic of his but he knows that history will be his judge and so will the rest of us...

Immigration. this is not helping. >> so what's so fascinating, rick tyler, is you have two conservative leading voices in washington, lindsey graham and also matthew continetti both saying donald trump could go down, not over russian collusion, but over all these things he's doing on the side where he may be setting up a perjury trap, he may be setting up an obstruction trap, an abuse of power trap, while the underlying crime of collusion may never be proven. >> just might be a really dumb guy. >> a lot of other conservatives, people supporting him, saying please just stop. pass a tax bill, re...

Obviously, a lot more attention to be focused on this even as the white house tries to put this entire episode behind it. >> these are different committees, but i'm wondering why we're having some in open session and then you have jared kushner behind closed doors. maybe because he's still on the white house staff. maybe there's classified information that could be discussed. i assume you haven't gotten anything like that from his attorney? >> reporter: there's been different circumstances. we have watched a parade of individual who is have been going to capitol hill. some of them members of t...