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They are not playing for that message. but at the same time they are putting themselves in peril because of this. paul manafort by virtue of that lighter sentence that he got last week increased the odds that his lies to prosecutors and no collusion message would actually earn himself more jail time in this hearing today. and there are arcments that he actually through some of these maneuvers, through pro-trump talking points and legal antics he's been engaged in, may have landed himself in prison for longer than he otherwise would have. he may be banking on that pardon eventually but if it do...

Russian guy linked to russian military intention among other things delivering messages back and forth between trump's campaign chairman and a putin-linked russian oligarch who is tied to russian active measures campaigns in other countries to affect other elections not to mention suspected of gigantic russian money laundering plots. right? i mean that guy is maybe not as attractive a target for a presidential pardon, not at least in this environment with all of these dangling threads still out there in terms of the president's own potential implication in the russia scandal. so in this new fi...

Russian guy who was linked to intelligence and among other things delivering messages back and forth between trump's campaign chairman and a putin linked russian oligarch tied to campaigns in other countries to affect other elections and not to mention suspected gigantic russian money laundering plots. that guy is maybe not as attractive a target for a presidential pardon. not at least in this environment with these dangling threads out there in erm thterms of the president's implication in the scandal. in this filing tonight and in this sentencing me ine ing memo the judge in virginia, in jud...

Not, at least, in this environment with all of these dangling threads still out there in terms of the president's own potential implication in the russia scandal. so in this new filing tonight, in this sentencing memorandum from manafort's defense tonight to the judge in virginia, this judge in virginia is being bombarded with this no collusion, no collusion message. it is somewhat inexplicable if you're looking in the four corners. but in the larger context, it might make sense. i also think it may explain what's been going on in the other jurisdiction where paul manafort is set to be sentenc...

Him on this. or there hasn't been, yet. because the offensiveness is also authentic. and there's such a craving for authenticity, it's why his folks defend it. >> right, i think this is what people most crave about him and have always loved about him. he says what's on his mind, and frankly he gives permission to a lot of people that would like to -- >> that's the damaging thing about all of this. the permission slip. >> the permission and enabling of it. if there were a moment where all of official washington would rise up and say, enough with the tweets, this may be the one that everyone can...