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>> jill, his first prosecution reminds me of watergate. in this case, you start with the small fry, if you will and work your way up. punishing them along the way perhaps. >> it does. and that is how we operated. you start building your case by getting the people who can give you someone higher up. and in this case, i think van der zwaan was a peripheral character but it does show that you cannot lie that they know a lot more in the prosecutor's office than you think they do and that you must tell the truth. that's a very strong message to all future witnesses. don't think you can outsmart the...

Personal message thatt presiden xi had. >> i don't have anything to add. >> quick question on stormy daniels and the lawsuit that was offered overnight -- or the motion that was made overnight. you've said that you addressed these issues extensively. these are in response today. you haven't answered the question about whether the president was aware of the $130,000 payment that was paid in which he is explicitedly nam. you were asked three weeks ago and you said you were not aware. are you aware now? >> we've spoken about this issue extensively, i don't have anything else to add. anything beyo...

President could grant, you would think the president would probably know about it. we don't know that. i don't want to get out over my skis on that one. >> the president does have the absolute power to pardon. can lawyers in the muller case use this as evidence of obstruction against the president if his lawyer was dangling these pardons as they were building a case against presumably two key figures in this investigation? >> i think that's a fascinating question. let me take a step back and try and give you some context. if the president wanted to convene a commission on gun safety and wanted...

And he's not going to go to jail. i think it's exactly the right question to ask. i don't think we know enough to answer it. i can tell you this, whether or not constitutional scholars are on either side of this question about the authority a president has are right or wrong, prosecutors and agents are going to be looking at why the president or his emissaries are talking pardon to witnesses. >> what could this mean for the potential interview between robert muller and donald trump? >> well, it's another topic, it's absolutely another topic. i don't imagine this will be a short interview. i im...

He's got a statement on the record saying there's no consideration of those at this time. >> is the white house worried about what michael flynn or paul manafort might tell robert muller? >> as we've said pretty much every day since we got here because you guys have continued to ask about this topic every single day. there was no collusion. we're very confident in that and look forward to this process wrapping up. >> the attorney for stormy daniels filed a motion to depose the president of the united states. do you have a response from the white house's reaction to that? >> nope. we have addre...