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He is, i never believed the collusion thing against trump. there might be something to the cohen story if there are tapes in existence. there might be a can of worms we haven't seen yet that trump is starting to get quite nervous about. gillian: the loyalty issue. if there is somebody in the trump orbit so committed to the president that he's willing to shell out $130,000 in cash, the art of what's possible expands. howie: i always thought it was the legal implications. the "new york times" reported that edtold aide he wanted to can miller over reports of the deutsch bank. hard to separate thi...

He is, i never believed the collusion thing against trump. there might be something to the cohen story if there are tapes in existence. there might be a can of worms we haven't seen yet that trump is starting to get quite nervous about. gillian: the loyalty issue. if there is somebody in the trump orbit so committed to the president that he's willing to shell out $130,000 in cash, the art of what's possible expands. howie: i always thought it was the legal implications. the "new york times" reported that edtold aide he wanted to can miller over reports of the deutsch bank. hard to separate thi...

I mean, just, technically speaking, these are not all democrats. these are, in fact, i believe all republicans. >> right. all, if not most. it's also, you know, it's not all fake. the intelligence community believes that russia was behind efforts to influence the 2016 election, in the hopes of hurting hillary clinton and helping donald trump. there are many other reasons why there's quote unquote bad blood, that are geo-political in nature. when the president says something like that, you know, it is -- it is essentially the kind of thing that would only appeal to a couple of people, but among...

Intelligence community believes that russia was behind efforts to influence the 2016 election in the hopes of hurting hillary clinton and helping donald trump. there are many other reasons why there is quote-unquote bad blood that are geopolitical in nature whchl the president says something like that, it is essentially the kind of thing that would only appeal to a couple of people, but among them, it is hard for him on one hand to criticize russia in the context of syria and then say oh, this collusion thing is all a fake. the person who seems to be suggesting this is all a hoax is the leader...

On the phone, i wish he could talk to the american people and tell them what happened an just tell them what the russians did in the voting machines and the dnc and the -- the misinformation in facebook. if he would acknowledge that, we would -- it could go a long way toward having the centralized leadership that we need to confront this issue. there are still people out there, chuck, you're in wisconsin, if you talk to people on the street, that will tell you the whole thing is i witch hunt and it doesn't amount to anything and it is a hoax because the president of the united states is tellin...