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About in the collusion front. on the mueller front he has a lot to worry about because it's a political hit. the mueller team is there to politically damage the president. not criminally on the collusion front. there is no collusion. there is brother collusion. nothing to worry about. one of the things we hit on in this book that is critical, we did a ton of research on this. ed, this was a movie script. okay? this collusion thing was a prepackaged narrative by glenn simpson and fusion g.p.s. all they did was erase the names and put donald j. trump in there. if you don't belief me. go back and...

All of that is sealed. so we don't know why he's fighting to subpoena. a judge held him in contempt when he didn't show up. so that is still ongoing. and there are probably other parts of this investigation, financial. the whole russia collusion thing we believe is ongoing. there are grand juries that are still active and hearing from witnesses. so there's really, really a lot that's still ongoing, and we really don't have any idea about when this is going to end. and then the big question really, wolf, is in the end what will the president finally do? will he go and meet with mueller, sit dow...

Accomplish for them? >> i don't know. i think it's a mistake to keep hammering this because i think if you look objectively at what has happened here, i really don't think mueller is trying to make a collusion case against the president. i think mueller is pursuing his original objective which is russia's interference in the election of which the collusion thing was one strand. my view of it is, he's interested in manafort because of manafort, not because of trump and collusion. the reason i say that is, he's had to gates as a cooperator for six months. and yet what has happened since gates ha...

They spent about 400 million of what they said is their own money. eric trump has described it as such. in the midst of that they had projects like the trump soho hotel, which was a boondoggle that had money from it from eastern europe and career criminals in it. >> if robert mueller gets into his finances, he said he would see it as a red line. you write in this piece, allen weisselberg going to a grand jury potentially brings mueller's probe into the president's wallet. this would likely bother the president. tim? >> you know, it's interesting to me how often he hits the collusion thing. the...

41 we want to you win this next election. let us know what we can do. they didn't say they were going to meddle. but if you want to voice support to say this is the right guy at the right time, you got it. steve: how many times have we heard the president say there was no collusion, there was no collusion between the russians and his campaign. we have heard that a million times. but, the question was about russian meddling. in particular. and, you know, i have heard from d.c. lawmakers that people get confused, you know, it all runs together to them. the collusion thing and the melgding thing,...