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With special counsel robert mueller's team. abbe lowell said that the mueller investigators asked kushner about russian collusion, foreign contacts and the firing of the fbi director james comey as well as more. let's dig deeper with our specialists and our analysts. david chelian, kushner's lawyer outlined that mueller was asking about these contacts and the firing of comey. it sort of reflects two tracts of this investigation, right? >> without a doubt. the collusion track -- the so-called collusion track, and the obstruction track. and i think abowe lowell made it crystal clear to you that ...

Scenario do you get the president of the united states in front of the special prosecutor. >> and is that not under oath and not taking notes which is the conditions that they have complained were completely out of bounds when applied to hillary clinton. >> so joining us on the phone now is former justice department spokesman matt miller. you've been inside the doj. the attorney general having interviewed with the special counsel. it is an intricate web. talk through what it must be like inside the doj right now. >> you know, i think it puts the attorney general leadership in a completely diff...

Mueller, who's an experienced prosecutor at the federal level, might be looking at a rico charge, criminal enterprise, looking at all these tidbits put together and saying they show an effort to make money along the way to the presidency. >> right. right now it seems like you have two tracks that mueller's taking. the obstruction track, and the collusion track. the one that is most dangerous for the president is of course the obstruction track. but in terms of his questioning of paul manafort, rick gates, mike flynn, it seems he's using the possible penalties with rico and with money launderin...

In trouble for lying to his former colleagues in congress and if he simply department answer that question because he's as exposed as he wants to be legally in front of his former colleagues in the house and senate. >> i think jeff sessions -- there are a lot of problems with jeff sessions as attorney general. one thing that's relatively clear on the basis of his behavior is that he wants to keep that job. he doesn't want to go to jail. he doesn't want to perjure himself. i think matt is right about the fact that in that period if you think about this mueller investigation having the two track...

Hearings and after and the conduct of jared kushner even after he was inside this white house. what do you make of the conduct of the president's team after the election? >> there's no question that they are dragging their feet. look, it's been more than a year since the election. and still this administration has not really taken any proven steps to prevent another cyberattack from happening in the next election cycle. there's something deeply troubling about the trump administration and its approach to what happened in 2016. first, they call it a nothing burger, and now we see from all of th...