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National security and counterterrorism before that, so a total of nine years working closely with him after 9/11, i never had an exchange with him where he asked me what my political affiliation was, what my political leanings were, it was always just the facts approach, and as the old colloquialism is that the fbi at that time was an equal opportunity investigator. whether you're a republican, democrat, independent, no party affiliation, whatever, the idea was if there are credible allegations that you have violated a federal law that the fbi has jurisdiction for then the fbi would follow up ...

Impeachment. >> mmm-hmm. >> and he didn't want to come out and say it, but -- >> yeah. >> -- there is no other explanation. >> also you talked about the exchange on obstruction. there was also the collusion versus conspiracy exchange that happened with georgia republican doug collins. let's watch it. >> collusion and conspiracy are essentially synonymous terms, correct? >> no. >> if no, on page 180 of volume i of your report, you wrote as defined in legal dictionaries, collusion is largely synonymous with conspiracy as that crime is set forth in a general statute. are you sitting here testifyi...

>> also you talked about the exchange on obstruction. there was also the collusion versus conspiracy exchange that happened with georgia republican doug collins. let's watch it. >> collusion and conspiracy are essentially synonymous terms, correct? >> no. >> if no, on page 180 of volume 1 of your report, you wrote as defined in legal dictionaries, collusion is largely synonymous with conspiracy as that crime is set forth in the general federal conspiracy statute. are you sitting here testifying something different than what your report states? >> i -- i leave it with the report. >> there was r...

Once to ask someone about their political affiliation. it is not done. what i care about is the capability of the individual to do the job and do the job quickly and seriously and with integrity. >> listen, it's obvious, it was live and then there is a tape right there. he seemed to come to life when he was defending his team. was that the robert mueller you know? >> well, yes, and, again, as his deputy director for almost six years and then the head of national security and counterterrorism before that, so a total of nine years working closely with him after 9/11, i never had an exchange with...

Interfering apart from the collusion and say they are concerned about one and want to prevent one. that doesn't give space. >> democrats, however, early on made one about the other. >> maria: those numbers aren't surprising. the number i'm very heartened by is the one that he should not be fired. i have think most americans should agree that he can finish out his investigation and it's important. >> katie: to address your argument of needing to separate the two collusion versus other, that may be true. however, this investigation is not separated that way. i mean, you have the indictments that...