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By pgm type system. other possibility of course, they would use hypersonics like they've used against odesa, that is something not only dangerous but also a disproportionate use of military force, striking principally civilian targets with the hypersonic weapons. might have a dichotomy of sophisticated weapons used and unsophisticated weapons used. could speak to the lack of preparation and logistical and industrial support for the russian war effort. >> colonel, thank you so much. good to have you with us. >> good to be with you. >> we'll take a short break on cnn. a lot more when we come bac...