Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20180421:14:52:00
These two men. >> i think there are four levels of issues here and i'm frankly glad in some ways that we are able to have this conversation. the first level is just what dr. johnson did so well in his piece which is about white fear, the police as an extension of that, as an enforcement of that. that is an american problem, not a starbucks problem. >> right. >> the second level is also -- and i think we haven't talked about this enough, what does the white person who doesn't have a stake in denying racism sees this and thinks it's unfair, whether it's the bystanders in the store on the ceo of ...