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As we look at this, the first question to you is just your reaction to what we are hearing from richard spencer about not only how things played out and he admits that he made mistakes, but his assessment of the president here. >> erica, what struck me the most about the op-ed was the fact the number of times he cited unlawful command influence in the run up and execution of the trial. how many times the president asked to intervene and do things specifically for chief gallagher. you know, having run court-martials and been involved in military justice over my career, any time you hear either ...

Stemmed partly from the way the defendants' lawyers and others worked to keep it front and center in the news media, by and large on fox news, which he watches all the time. what do you make of all of this? >> there is new information out. he is giving new details about the president's involvement in the case. as you said, what it boils down to, this is a president that watches fox news and charges was championed by an analyst on fox news and painted as a hero against a system unjust. this is very important with command influence, people above superior officers in the case including the presid...

Community has been in the lead of that. they're trying to reinstall, reinvigorate standards of discipline and we've had some real serious problems. so the president's command influence in public is unheard of. by the way, the uniform code of military justice didn't get written in the pentagon or the white house, it's a federal system of justice passed by congress. so i think the appalling thing is to have the president of the united states pardoning people, one of whom hadn't even gone to trial and also in public talking about things like endorsing torture of detainees under our control. very ...

I might add the president had been in public exerting command influence, which was well known throughout the armed forces. so again the problem is, you know, we simply must obey the laws of war. we want to be the good guys and we have a system of investigations, of peer group review, ucmj calls for a jury trial of your peers. that's the way the system is supposed to work. and mr. trump has essentially intervened in that process in a very public way, calling into question whether or not we're committed to the rules of warfare that we signed up to by international treaty and by u.s. federal law....

The sort on that. i am a navy senior chief. i come from a family of chiefs. this is about a chief, okay? you have to stand for my navy, you need to defend our institution. the president of the united states is using undo command influence and there is not a chief in this navy that would allow that without saying something to the ward. i spect texpect the navy to thr anchor down and stand against this or you can all resign. >> naveed, malcolm and sarah, it is great to talk to all of you guys. coming up, it is time who won the week. won the week shop small and watch it add up. small business sat...