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Look, be cat's out of the bag on a lot of stuff. go down there and say what you're for. >> that's right. they're calling for him to do that. it sounds like a big about speech, small changes more to come with a congress that is so far hasn't been very productive with much of anything. there is a movement i had i in the house for ending this entire program, right? it got a lot of votes actually in the house side. but a lot of division in terms of where to go on this. you had the leaders of the top two committees feinstein and rogers come out and say basically rubber stamp what the president said...

And we're back. now to the debate over government spying. i spoke with the head of the senate intelligence committee, democrat from kat dianne feinstein as well as the chair of the house intelligence committee, both the intelligence chairs. republican from michigan mike rog persons it was their only interview together since obama's important speech on friday. senator feinstein is, chairman rogers welcome back. good to have you both. so the future of spying it seems to me is very much like the president's. do you view this as a big victory, chairman rogers. >> i thought the most important victo...

I spoke with the head of the senate intelligence committee, democrat from kat dianne feinstein as well as the chair of the house intelligence committee, both the intelligence chairs. republican from michigan mike rog persons it was their only interview together since obama's important speech on friday. senator feinstein is, chairman rogers welcome back. good to have you both. so the future of spying it seems to me is very much like the president's. do you view this as a big victory, chairman rogers. >> i thought the most important victory was the president standing up and saying the program di...

You think of him leaks these documents, the information about these programs. and senator feinstein, that esa big hugh and cry but basically the president says these programs are here to stay. and critics of the speech as i've been reading this em seem to say very little will change. barton gelman says, "obama placed restrictions on access to domestic can phone records collected by the national security agency but the changes he announced will allow it to continue or expand the collection of personal data from billions of people around the world, americans and foreign citizens alike." that doe...

>> all right. we'll leave it there. senator feinstein, thank you very much for being here it, chairman rogers thank you, as well. >> thank you. i wanted to get a different perspective from a privacy advocate also part of that digital privacy movement and an out spoken critic of government spying. alexis ohanian is the co-founder of red dit. the users post anything from articles to images to random questions and thoughts. stories then become popular with a six up or down vote from users. he's also the author of the book without their permission how the 21st century will be made not managed. h...