This is not about the futures markets. that's operating fine. it is the derivatively based commodity etf has are behemoth. >> the exchange, the things to let you trade oil or corn like a stock -- >> for people who are hedging legitimately, it's legitimate. >> not saying that the oil traders, the airlines, the chemical companies that use the merck, he's saying they're the people to be creating the pure price and getting distorted by the fact that the investor class, the retail and institutional investor class is allocating oil to offer a return and distorting the price for everybody else. it's ...