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We're cutting taxes really for the middle income more than anything else -- >> everybody's taxes are going down, though? >> everybody's taxes are going down. some people won't pay tax. the reason they're not going to pay -- i love the idea of having a little sort of fat in the game if we can. but the fact is these are people that will are doing poorly. they're making not a lot of money. and we're saving a tremendous amount of administrative costs and other things by not making them pay. under my plan, i think it's a dynamic plan -- we're going to grow the economy. if we do 6% or 7% under my pl...

They're leaving the united states now and going out to different -- whether it's ireland and lots of other places in europe and asia and they're leaving and there are many companies right now, chuck, that are talking about very seriously leaving this country and you're talking about thousands of jobs and a couple of these are big, powerful companies with lots of jobs. >> what you're saying is you make it up with growth? >> no, not all up with growth. we also start cutting because the waste in this country is unbelievable. >> you're going to get rid of entire departments? >> i would get rid of ...

>> we've never had a year of 6% or 7%. >> but we can do that. >> how? >> well, first of all, a couple things, number one, corporate inversion is a big deal and that's getting worse and worse. companies will be leaving here. in the old days they'd leave new york and go to florida, leave new jersey and go to texas. they're leaving the united states now and going out to different -- whether it's ireland and lots of other places in europe and asia and they're leaving and there are many companies right now, chuck, that are talking about very seriously leaving this country and you're talking about t...

>> we're cutting a lot. we're cutting taxes for the middle income more than anybody else. everybody's taxes are going down. some people won't pay tax and the reason they're not going to pay -- i love the idea of having a fat in the game if we can. the fact is these are people that are doing very poorly. they make not a lot of money. and we're saving a tremendous amount of administrative course by not making them pay. it's a dynamic plan. we'll grow the economy. we can do that. we also start cutting. the waste in this country is unbelievable. when you look at all of the -- >> you're going to ge...

>> no. not entirely. i would certainly get rid of a lot of it. jeb bush, he's a big common core person. i'm not. i want local education. we could save a fortune with environmental protection -- >> financially not a big department, though. you're not going to get rid of a lot -- >> it's a lot of money. >> what is another agency you'll get rid of -- >> even in the military, i'm going to build a military much stronger than it is now. it's going to be so strong nobody's going to mess with us. we can do it for a lot less. >> i'm coming back to the math here. nobody can seem -- especially since you ...