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He may not have known. here's a bigger issue. >> let me stop you on this, john, because you're the expert. this is something i think is common sensical. if something goes wrong in our business, everybody from the top down wants to know who did it. wouldn't he from the top down immediately say what happened to the drilling mud? what happened to the cement? and go through quickly a checklist right there with his people between him and that well and find out what happened? wouldn't he want to know before he even thought about lawyers? >> i certainly would. and i would certainly want to be fully b...

>> we absolutely know where you stand. he's a birther, an extremist. thank you, pat. >> this is why you lose -- do you know why you lose these people? because you show contempt for them. you call them birthers, call them names. i'm talking about the people, the tea party people, all they want, joan, is respect. and you liberals never give it to them, call them all names. no wonder they go over to the republican party. >> you know what, pat, that's unfair. i went to a tea party in san francisco april 15th. go read about it on my blog. i talked to people who i thought were very common sensical, ...

>> we know where you stand. >> we absolutely know where you stand. he's a birther, an extremist. thank you, pat. >> this is why you lose -- do you know why you lose these people? because you show contempt for them. you call them birthers, call them names. i'm talking about the people, the tea party people, all they want, joan, is respect. and you liberals never give it to them, call them all names. no wonder they go over to the republican party. >> you know what, pat, that's unfair. i went to a tea party in san francisco april 15th. go read about it on my blog. i talked to people who i thought...

Were common sensical, and i pointed to the places where the left and right could make common cause. for the most part, these birthers, they're not reaching out. they're hysterical about barack obama and dividing the country. don't tell me i'm the problem and i'm not reaching out. >> i've helped put together two coalitions, one for reagan, basically evangelical christians and all these protestants down there. you've got to bring them in. also with nixon, we brong the whole wallace movement, at one point it was at 23%, he got 13% of the vote. >> but that was a racist movement. >> you call them a...

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