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Responsible for khashoggi's death, and this, this really is as close to a smoking gun as we can get, based on "the new york times" reporting, this was based on an intercepted phone call and it is pretty incon tro vertible evidence when you have this kind of communications intelligence, or comment as they call, it two people speaking to each other when they think no one is listening, so based on all of this and based upon how saudi arabia treats journalists within its own borders, it is pretty clear why the cia assesses that mba is responsible. >> thank you so much. u.s. senator cory booker h...

Than that in fact because the human intelligence you need to stop these attacks best comes from local preachers ,-com,-com ma neighbors, et cetera. the way you get that is by engaging with them. unfortunately, other types of surveillance, communications intelligence often runs counter to your ability as the authorities to engage local leaders. obviously they don't like you surveilled. 35 to walk a fine line in building bridges to these communities which they been trying to do and at the end of the day relying on the more technical means to capture intelligence regardless of what the people in ...

Eventually more details ahead but there's no difference at all. and the people on the ground talked about aircraft and yesterday the department of defense has intelligence communications intelligence for those aircraft and has the intelligence of those aircraft being tracked. so, in my mind, there's no doubt and for assad to say they've never had chemical weapons, they have never used them. >> he said it's a 100% fabrication. >> entirely. the u.n. removed 1300 tons of assad's chemical weapons in september and october 2013. he's forgotten that. >> he's forgotten that. and apparently everything ...

Lists of computers that were being penetrated by the nsa. it wasn't -- they didn't accidentally come before him he targeted and went after the sources and methods, which are the crown jewels of any intelligence service and incredibly important to communications intelligence. >> tucker: more even then we understand. things for coming on tonight, i appreciate it. >> thank you very much, tucker. >> tucker: we'll talk to charlesco krauthammer out of today's ruling out of the ninth circuit court at what it means for the trump presidency and you, will be right back. >> tucker: fox news alert, a my s...

>> 1597 or something. he's done more than his predecessors. >> it's laudable what he's done. >> so i want to ask you. brian said, you know, he would separate the two, he would separate snowden and chelsea manning, but your new book about edward snowden is a deep dive into the extent of his crimes. you called what snowden did a theft. should barack obama pardon snowden? >> no, he won't pardon snowden. it's night and day between snowden and manning. snowden stole communications intelligence, which is the keys to the kingdom of intelligence if these sources and methods by which we intercept conve...