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Had underestimated the idea this was going to be instead of a two-phase project, get the bill passed and then talking about it, a three-stage process. so first they had to get the bureaucracy going and deal with how they were talking about it. now they're into this part of the infrastructure law where there is actually money to hand out. what they're going to be doing is going around and not saying, hey, look, there might be a bridge over there. we're going to fund something or put rural broadband over there, but there are projects under way that they can point to, tangible things, jobs that a...

>> i absolutely agree. because if you set people evenings expectations higher than you can achieve, then you're setting them up for disappointment and we've seen that several times. that was certainly true in that speech in july. now the science was probably helping to inform that speech and the science didn't anticipate some of the bumps in the road that we saw. let's be honest, there's been some miscalculations on testing in particular. we're hearing a lot about that now and there have been communications problems, particularly out of the cdc that go on his account where people had just conf...

Kyiv, how quickly it may escalate? >> well, i think the russian tactics are really hampered by the road conditions, anderson. they have to stay road bound now because the ground should have been hard florozen, it's not, s they're stuck. they've got a long convoy, it's been on the road for hours. stuff breaks down. things run out of fuel. there's got to be repairs to it. there's communications problems. it's a big logistics problem, and i don't think the russians were prepared for it. in terms of the tactics, they will eventually get the bulk of that convoy into position to bring artillery and ...

>> the russians made the fatal mistake, they underestimated their opponents, believing they would be -- the russians deployed some of their elite voices first, they felt a hold their objectives and -- ukrainians have adopted more flexible formations, the classic battalion and brigade structures. >> the fact that the ukrainians are managed to kill someone in general things remarkable. it is not just due to phenomenal work by the ukrainians, it is due to the fact that the russians have communications problems. so, the generals have to go closer to the action in an order to see what is going on. ...

>> it tells me they have huge leadership in communication and morale issues. during the entire korean war, america lost two generals. the entire war -- what does that say? they're having communications problems. we know that their secure networks have been inoperable but knocked out. essentially using single channel open communications lines that are being jammed. when that happens, they have to resort to cell phones. the russians essentially cut off the russian prefix for using cell phones so they're having to resort to stealing phones from the ukrainians to talk to the front lines. what happ...