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Drove the speech and, hopefully, will drive his actions going forward. >> it's been interesting to watch this administration's communication strategy evolve over time. as we were kind of discussing here, perhaps the hopes of the administration both about the former president kind of receding into the sunset or perhaps the republican party not being as divisive and attacking this administration in every sense of the word and threatening our democracy. i am curious, if you were working in the white house right now, what are some of the recommendations you would make to have a more effective stra...

Thing from a communications side for the president and for the democrats is going to be, is to go into '22 with some really concrete wins. and, unfortunately, that's going to be difficult to do with this paper thin majority in the senate. but if democrats can go into '22 saying we passed a big investment on climate change, we made progress, some form of build back better, we got voting rights against all odds through the senate. then there is a lot of great stuff to talk about. i will tell you what you want is to write a speech about something exciting that your administration has done. and wh...

Secretary of state's comments. so, you, know backing up what we heard from joy yeah. what is your reaction to this? i wonder, robert, had it come from the communications side, but goes through your head when you hear all of this? >> well, chris, i think we watch donald trump and people around him for four years do their best to normalize vladimir putin to the american people. quite frankly, it was something no level of russian propaganda could ever have accomplished in this country. when you listen to donald trump -- >> might i argue, robert, not just normalize, but elevate. >> i was going to ...

>> robert, they are not alone. let me play with mark pompeo said last week. >> very shrewd. very capable. i have enormous respect for him. i've been criticized for saying that. no, i have enormous respect for him. he's very savvy, very shrewd. >> enormous respect for putin. we definitely noticed, he used some of the same language as his former boss. julia davis from the daily beast observed on twitter, russian state media has also taken note of the former secretary of state's comments. so, you, know backing up what we heard from joy yeah. what is your reaction to this? i wonder, robert, had it...

Diplomacy. >> and very quickly, how unusual would it have been when you were working on the communications side in the state department for you to have been asked to concoct a statement for a foreign government to make promising that they were going to investigate the former vice president of the united states and that they were going to advance a conspiracy theory and do that publicly. would that have been unusual? >> that would have been horrifying. we all take an oath of office and we do these jobs of pun lbl service because we genuinely care about the united states and the constitution. th...