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We know it's been pretty clear that this was not a decision that the british particularly wanted to take at this moment. what does this and what's happening in afghanistan tell us about britain's influence in washington, its military capability and its ability to adopt a leadership role, do you think? well, it's not at all surprising that the foreign policies of the uk and us should be diverging, because they're the principal members of nato, and nato has been in an existential crisis ever since the cold war ended. it was devised, if we all remember, as an adversary to the soviet bloc and the ...

Capability and its ability to adopt a leadership role, do you think? well, it's not at all surprising that the foreign policies of the uk and us should be diverging, because they're the principal members of nato, and nato has been in an existential crisis ever since the cold war ended. it was devised, if we all remember, as an adversary to the soviet bloc and the communisty bloc, and when communism collapsed and there was no more soviet union to oppose, and within ten years of communism collapsing, we had 9/11 and the rise of islamist terrorism, and so nato became, basically, a counterterroris...

Janet, let's begin with what this means, if we can, a little bit, for the uk. borisjohnson has been trying to develop an independent foreign policy. we know it's been pretty clear that this was not a decision that the british particularly wanted to take at this moment. what does this and what's happening in afghanistan tell us about britain's influence in washington, its military capability and its ability to adopt a leadership role, do you think? well, it's not at all surprising that the foreign policies of the uk and us should be diverging, because they're the principal members of nato, and ...

Borisjohnson has been trying to develop an independent foreign policy. we know it's been pretty clear that this was not a decision that the british particularly wanted to take at this moment. what does this and what's happening in afghanistan tell us about britain's influence in washington, its military capability and its ability to adopt a leadership role, do you think? well, it's not at all surprising that the foreign policies of the uk and us should be diverging, because they're the principal members of nato, and nato has been in an existential crisis ever since the cold war ended. it was d...

Collapsed, there was no morris soviet union to oppose. the obvious question is what is nato for? and within ten years of communism collapsing, we had 9/11, and the rise of islamist terrorism and so nato became basically a counterterrorism outfit, and that was its mantra. so that's why biden can say the reason that we are able to pull out of afghanistan that we wanted to pull out of afghanistan was that we felt they resolve the terrorism problem in afghanistan. they killed bin laden, they got rid of al-qaeda in afghanistan, so that has got nothing to do with the original conception of nato, whi...