Years in a small company and it was happening behind his back, when his own company and he were benefitting from it which seems, you know, laughable. i think that's part of the reason that the jury came back, you know, so quickly here. in this case. >> harry litman, what does a company for whom two of its divisions, these were charges brought against the trump corporation and the trump payroll corporation. and, again, a jury has found those corporations guilty on nine charges, nine charges against the trump organization, eight charges against the payroll corporation. this was a 15-year fraudul...