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But if there's one thing we've all learned, robert mueller takes the process crimes seriously and sending a message other people should too, with good reason. when people lie, it delays an investigation. anyone complaining about the length of this investigation should look no further than the lies that are at the heart of it. and also when you're talking about national security officials and dealing with foreign adversaries, the lies are incredibly consequential. because not only are you facing potential criminal prosecution for lying, but then you also put yourself that compromise situation, ...

Are incredibly consequential. because not only are you facing potential criminal prosecution for lying, but then you also put yourself that compromise situation, the situation sally yates talked about. if the russians know you have lied publicly, they can use that as leverage against you to coerce you to cooperate with whatever they demand. the stakes are high and they're very serious crimes. >> there's a question how this makes it more difficult to investigate. but when we're talking about the materiality of a lie of michael flynn, it could be the case that all these people are lying all the ...

You want. end quote. now, that is just one critic's view. but remember donald trump's first national security adviser mike flynn? president trump was of course forced to fire him, because flynn lied about his contacts with the russian ambassador and the justice department found out. >> the russians also knew about what general flynn had done. and the russians also knew that general flynn had mislead the vice president and others. not only did we believe that the russians knew this, but that they likely had proof of this information. and that created a compromise situation. a situation where th...

>> who needs to be driving this is the congress. this is not the president's job. the president -- what they need to do is they need to put the senate in the senate and the house in the house and lock that door and give the key to donald trump. because if they don't do anything -- here's the problem, we have a bought congress. these guys don't have the stones to actually come up with a compromise situation. >> well, the nra has given them lots of money. >> if you're intimidated by the nra, you don't understand their state of effectiveness today. i don't believe anybody who truly understands th...

Before the senate judiciary committee. >> we were concerned that the american people had been misled about the underlying conduct and what general flynn had done. additionally we weren't the only one that knew all this. the russians knew what general flynn had done. and the russians also knew that general flynn had misled the vice president and others. in the media accounts it was clear that they were repeating what general flynn had told them. this was a problem. because, because, not only did we believe that the russians knew this, but that they likely had proof of this -- information. and t...