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Deal. and i also think he doesn't want to be perceived to be giving in much at all. so this capitulation to steal rather than concrete, i don't think he likes this. concrete has always been the word that he was using all along. and actually, he built trump tower out of concrete when it was built. it was the largest concrete structure in the world. he likes concrete. so all of these adjustments come hard to him. and he's not going to give until he absolutely has to. >> i want you to listen to this exchange with white house press secretary, sarah sanders, on fox news with chris wallace about the...

Military is very affected, we may use the military for parts of it, homeland security is very affected. . we may in addition to the 5.6, we will use homeland security funds. so we have things happening in addition to the 5.6 but we have to get a structure built. >> reporter: was daca part of the discussion? >> thank you, mr. president. to follow up on that question, with respect to the daca program, were you discussing that in terms of a pathway to citizenship being included as part of an end to the partial sh shutdown. >> we discussed this mythical number, 25 billion, but only 2 billion up fr...

Governor ask us but they really needed it, having tremendous problems. and we built a brand new wall in san diego and it's doing really well. you should go and look at it. it's amazing, it's incredible how it works. these coyotes and human traffickers make a right turn before they get to the port of entry, they go as far as the wall is or as far as the barricade is and then they make a left, welcome to the united states and what they do with usually the women, sometimes children that they're trafficking with and in, you don't want to know about. so the only way you're going to stop that is by ...

Question about the terrorists? >> sure. obviously i can't get into classified information but what we do know is cdp has stopped over 3,000 what we call special interest aliens trying to come into the country on the southern border. those are aliens who the intel community has identified are of concern. they either have travel patterns that are identified as terrorist travel patterns or they have known or suspected ties to terrorism. so we have 3,000 that we know about. i think what the president continues to make clear is it's our sovereign duty to know who comes into our country without any ...

Backed off of the cement, now he's down to, i think, a beaded curtain or something. i'm not sure where he is. so if we don't know where he is, where are we? where is everybody with this shutdown? are we looking at 2019 here, garrett? >> it's sounding increasingly likely that we are looking at a prolonged shutdown, because the sides are too far apart, but there's something to pull from that quote from nancy pelosi. this is apparently negotiating in the trump era. there's a lot of trolling going on here. she talks about the president backing off of this idea of a concrete barrier. and it has bee...