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60-vote threshold for the supreme court. >> a lot of your fellow democrats have pointed out that he preserved that. it made it easier to move forward to approve "sportscentesupreme court nominees. i know you don't want to get into that. did judge kavanaugh say anything in the op-ed he published yesterday to convince you that he will be an impartial justice of the supreme court? >> no. no. i think that's a confirmation conversion. the reality is he showed me who he was when he was before the senate judiciary committee after dr. ford testified. he showed me to be a partisan. he said what goes ar...

I think there is a competence issue. there is also a character issue with n washington what is known as confirmation conversion where confronted with statement after statement he made before, he said i didn't quite appointee it. maybe i misspoke. i would put it a different way. it really was very weak performance. i think it has to be troubling to the administration as they look ahead to the coming vote. >> greta: is there a difference in qualification for the job of secretary of state versus secretary of defense. in recent years, with so many wars going on and so much overlap, i'm curious how...

Administration and the congress gives you and then you try to spend that in the best possible way. so, i would have liked to have seen more of that, but i clearly understand from the questions yesterday the past comments and the walking away from those comments in the last couple of weeks. one of my colleagues, not on the committee yesterday, but one of them called it a confirmation conversion where suddenly all these positions are not quite what they pretty aggressively have been for a long time. >> you think too much time, though, was spent on that? >> well, i don't know how you could spend ...

Pat lahey in a friendly way asked her to address this. of course, she seems to have had a bit of a conversion here and what she said, you know, you have to have some feel of how a nominee approaches legal issues but there are limb et cetera on that. clearly she's had a confirmation conversion on that one. >> we are going to work in a quick break. coming up at the bottom of the hour, not only continuing questions for elena kagan but general david petraeus will be before the senate armed services committee. you see the general there arriving on capitol hill. he's taking a demotion. stepping down...

Statement once she's on the hot seat. >> chris: confirmation conversion. >> let me talk about the war. she certainly has taken some positions and i expect a liberal judge to take. replacing judge stevens. i don't think there will be a great ideological change. but she said and done things as solicitor general that gives me great comfort. she said nice things about me, i appreciate it. but the one thing that i think we made news this morning, she suggested that afghanistan, this is our last best chance to get it right and general petraeus represents our best chance. both of us agree he ought to...