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This is the destruction of a cancer cell by the body's own immune system, thanks to medicine that didn't exist until now. and today can save your life. ♪ ♪ >> neil: well, a constitutional first. vice president mike pence breaking what was a tie in the senate. 50-50 to confirm betsy devos as education ceremony. jan brewer relieved. great to have you, governor. she's in, but do you think she's going to have a hard time now that all of this problem that she received in the confirmation

Possible secretary of state. what do you think? >> i'm concerned some of the statements he's made about the sanctions in russia, that we should ease those. i am concerned about his relationship with russia. we want to make sure that the secretary of state is a person who represents america, and once again, russia is not our friend. they've attacked our allies. they are attacking us through the internet. we need to make sure that the secretary of state has independence and will represent u.s. interests and are not concerned about commercial interests with russia over what is our national securi...

Again, russia is not our friend. they've attacked our allies. they are attacking us through the internet. we need to make sure that the secretary of state has independence and will represent u.s. interests and are not concerned about commercial interests with russia over what is our national security interests. >> do you think tillerson might have confirmation problems? >> i'm not going to prejudge a confirmation process. i think the members of the senate need to recognize the independent roles, this is a constitutional priority and we need to do it in an objective way, but i can tell you thes...

Became clear he was not going to get it. this statement gives him some face saving because it says he told trump on november 29th that he wasn't interested in joining the administration. and so this makes it look a little less like he wasn't able to get the job that he sought. that some people thought he had a good shot given all his work for trump during the campaign. >> i have to say i had been hearing that he would have potentially confirmation problems on capitol hill because of all his business entanglements all over the world. >> even the rudy fans among trump's closest supporters who wa...

Continu continuum. trump will get an excuse here and there and flip flop here and there. if it looks real swampy in a year including his own business arrangements, then it could suddenly turn on him and people can say this is the system we always had, a new face pretending to have a new system. this could pile up and become an obvious criticism later on that you always in the end are supporting people from goldman sachs and giving them good jobs and influence at the highest levels of government. >> we have been talking about trump's cabinet. tom steyer was critical of picks there. do you sense...