America. you were there in charlottesville, why were you called in and for what purpose? >> sure, congregate charlottesville, the interfaith alliance to stand -- [inaudible] kelly: bishop, you're there from a faith perspective, dealing with a real-life situation that -- that shows violence which is sad what we are looking at right now, fists being thrown at each other, racial slurs being thrown at each other and you were saying something to me on the phone before this conversation that you saw irony of ironies that white nationalists had been wearing crosses and carrying the cross, tell me, if...