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Something that was at least arguably u.s. territory. that would be the difference, if you wanted to make it. >> same thing with barry goldwater who was born in arizona as it was a territory before it was legally converted to statehood. but when it comes to a case like this, if this were to elevate itself to the u.s. supreme court, which a case has never done, how do you think the court would go in terms of standing? do you think it would even make it that far? >> i think it depends who brings the lawsuit. the case that is pending in broward county, florida does not have a good chance of going ...

No one in this house is perfect. i will tell you that from a direct -- >> congressman. >> -- from working with both sides. >> i think we found something we can agree on. having covered congress i will agree with you no one in that congress is perfect indeed. it's been a pleasure to have you on. come back again. >> anytime. thank you, chris. >> joining me now congressman alan grayson, democrat from florida. congressman, what are your thoughts on this? >> well, i think we taught them a lesson. i filed an ethics complaint against mccarthy yesterday and today he drops out of the race three weeks b...

>> -- from working with both sides. >> i think we found something we can agree on. having covered congress i will agree with you no one in that congress is perfect indeed. it's been a pleasure to have you on. come back again. >> anytime. thank you, chris. >> joining me now congressman alan grayson, democrat from florida. congressman, what are your thoughts on this? >> well, i think we taught them a lesson. i filed an ethics complaint against mccarthy yesterday and today he drops out of the race three weeks before the actual vote. he couldn't stand the heat. and we taught them a lesson which wi...

National tv today. and i think my leadership is open to that. i think what we all want is we want good government and we do not want the crazies to block that anymore in the future. >> how long do you see this playing out, and are you worried about the fact we have a debt ceiling coming up, a debt ceiling deadline, although those tend to be a little soft coming up? >> we now have a temporary artificial equilibrium. right now temporarily we have boehner in charge and we have mccarthy in charge. but obviously that's not going to last very long. i think the current leadership such as it is will g...

>> -- from working with both sides. >> i think we found something we can agree on. having covered congress i will agree with you no one in that congress is perfect indeed. it's been a pleasure to have you on. come back again. >> anytime. thank you, chris. >> joining me now congressman alan grayson, democrat from florida. congressman, what are your thoughts on this? >> well, i think we taught them a lesson. i filed an ethics complaint against mccarthy yesterday and today he drops out of the race three weeks before the actual vote. he couldn't stand the heat. and we taught them a lesson which wi...