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Is because they don't think they can win. if they can't beat them, they want to cheat them. they are like those players and stalkers when they know they can't win. they fake an injury and fall. that's the only way to beat trump. they make up a penalty. that's what's going on. i believe this is about them knowing that the mueller thing is not going to give them what they want so now they are digging into the cemetery for dead smears and they found the tax returns. >> dagen: you say tax returns. you know they do? [snoring] >> dana: "the new york times" story didn't go anywhere. democrats are fru...

Conservative media, on twitter, in "the new york times," on shows like this, trying to have an upper hand over their colleagues. none of this is happening at the deputies level. none of it is happening at the principals level. cabinet secretaries are finding these decisions are being made based on re-tweets, likes, and what the conservative echo chamber is creating for the president. >> so nancy, in terms of the president himself, is this something where he sees all of this chaos, the leaking and just the swirl around his administration, and he sees an advantage strategically in that, and he a...

But it's to an end because they think -- and perhaps they're right on this -- that if their views are articulated in some of the places mr. trump reads or watches, they can win the argument there even if they can't win it in the meeting. so they're relitigating or pre-litigating a lot of these policy discussions in conservative media, on twitter, in "the new york times," on shows like this, trying to have an upper hand over their colleagues. none of this is happening at the deputies level. none of it is happening at the principals level. cabinet secretaries are finding these decisions are bein...

Views are articulated in some of the places mr. trump reads or watches, they can win the argument there even if they can't win it in the meeting. so they're relitigating or pre-litigating a lot of these policy discussions in conservative media, on twitter, in "the new york times," on shows like this, trying to have an upper hand over their colleagues. none of this is happening at the deputies level. none of it is happening at the principals level. cabinet secretaries are finding these decisions are being made based on re-tweets, likes, and what the conservative echo chamber is creating for the...

Clinton and possibly james comey. something that many republicans or even some republicans have been calling for a special counsel on. >> yeah. those were interesting because there you saw jeff sessions exert a little bit of the independence of the doj and saying you know, it's rare that we have a special counsel for anything. and maybe this is not -- essentially hinting that maybe this is not the kind of thing that would require a special counsel. even pushing back on the last question that you took before we came out of the hearing suggesting somehow his deputy rod rosenstein was caught up i...