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Cockamamie. they want to build this theory that somehow a company called crowd strike found the emails, publicized them, some ukrainian connection which i don't understand, and that was a way to help hillary clinton win the election, but both of those stories mr. giuliani is trying to find, that's why he's engaged with ukraine. >> he's able to get some of this stuff into the conservative ecochamber. mostly through fox news. constantly through the month of march and on twitter, what's this? so creating this predicate that somehow this matters. then something out of the ordinary happens to their...

Feels like jeff sessions could have prevented a lot of this grief that he's now dealing with with the special counsel probe continuing. and what i see when i see jeff sessions talking to the white house counsel, perhaps, putting pressure on chris wray to get rid of andrew mccabe, all sorts of stories, when i see jeff sessions out there maligning the fbi, which is part of the justice department, when he's maligning the fbi, when he's sort of participating in that sort of conservative ecochamber, the fbi derangement syndrome that you hear on fox news. when he's participating in that, what i see ...

Had expressed my deep concern more vociferously at that point. this was may/june when they really went on the offense, meyers said. i remember thinking, this bothers me. well, richard, that's nice. this bothers you. it's only a majority of the vote, the women's vote. kind of think you would mention if it bothered you in a real campaign. >> if you're senior adviser, you don't say that until after the election. you try to do it at the moment you can make a difference. look, there is something bigger here that joy was touching on, which is not just a self-belief that they had, and this isn't just...

Just kind of a mazes me. i want to go on to another thing in the globe. it's beth meyers. she was worried about the campaign's appeal to women voters. she says to the globe, i wish i had expressed my deep concern more vociferously at that point. this was may/june when they really went on the offense, meyers said. i remember thinking, this bothers me. well, richard, that's nice. this bothers you. it's only a majority of the vote, the women's vote. kind of think you would mention if it bothered you in a real campaign. >> if you're senior adviser, you don't say that until after the election. you ...

But that is really me being the most charitable that i can possibly be. in fact, i suspect it is a little worse than that. there's an assumption that the american people are still easily swayed by the most sort of base and crass, emotional sort of racial attacks and attack that is are fundamentally about making the president seem as though he's, as we have heard literally there, not an american. >> i wonder if it's really so thought out. i think one of the challenges mitt romney has in the election or the republicans have in the election is there's this conservative ecochamber and the vision t...