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federal court. the bottom line is, he is toast! there is nothing he can do -- [laughs] >> i was gonna say screwed. there is a consistency problem here. you can say many times, in public, on television, there was all kinds of things in those boxes. i don't know what was in those boxes. so it's very hard to get from -- at and have any idea what was in the boxes, to, i know they planted things. do you agree with that? >> i completely agree. judge dearie is a no nonsense judge. he's not going to take pr statements and say that that has any merit and his court. he is going to say as these...

someone who fought so long and hard. there >> i think the solution is to figure out how not to do it again. >> turns at your university like jimmy's idea. and matt a matter of weeks, there isn't a yearlong clause to investigate what went wrong in afghanistan, produce a report of their findings. they batted jimmy the undergraduate to not only take the graduate level class, but to be an unofficial co-professor. a retired u.s. ambassador and patterson. >> jimmy was basically the founder, the branch behind the course. and he was a huge benefit because jamie had, on the ground experience,...

he's going to say, as these guys said, prove it. this is a very dangerous scheme for them to play. as nick said, this is just another criminal charge waiting on other criminal charges being investigated. >> how do they play it, than? >> i think they declare victory in some way and get out of this thing, because this is not going to end well for them. this is going to end with perjury charges. it's going to end with a hearing being called that they are not prepared for. and if they tried the pr strategy and judge dearie's court, it's going to be worse for the lawyers. >> okay. and pol...

Federal court. the bottom line is, he is toast! there is nothing he can do -- [laughs] >> i was gonna say screwed. there is a consistency problem here. you can say many times, in public, on television, there was all kinds of things in those boxes. i don't know what was in those boxes. so it's very hard to get from -- at and have any idea what was in the boxes, to, i know they planted things. do you agree with that? >> i completely agree. judge dearie is a no nonsense judge. he's not going to take pr statements and say that that has any merit and his court. he is going to say as these guys said...

Attacking our sovereignty. so attacking u.s. sovereignty wasn't a red line for canceling a meeting and the president has a consistency problem if he's now claiming russia's violation of the territorial integrity is why he's not meeting putin. plus, he to date has pursued a strategy that love and the answer. he's embraced despots and said talking at a summit level is better than not talking at all. >> this is contrary to that. >> he's undermining whatever semblance of a national security strategy he had before by saying my executive time is actually a reward for good behavior and now i'm not go...