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But i wonder what you think donald trump's photographer sees. >> well, i think we saw that after the shootings in ohio and texas when he wanted to make a point that he was treated like a rockstar when he was greeting the families. that's not what a president is supposed to do. you are there to represent the country. you are the consoler in chief. it's not a game. it's not are people taking pictures with you? it is to comfort people that are hurting, victims of mass shootings or hurricanes or tornados. we just don't see that. >> i want to talk about some of your photos because you convey in an ...

White house. he has it on the campaign trail. and when erin asked him about what that was for him, that others shared their stories of grief to get some solace from him, he saw that as a really purposeful way for him to deal with his own grief, that it gives him purpose to hear those stories and relieve some of that burden from people. i mean you know that we have talked often about at times when there's a national tragedy or an event happens and we talk about the role as president to be sort of the consoler in chief for the country. obviously of all the roles the commander in chief has to pla...

He has it on the campaign trail. and when erin asked him about what that was for him, that others shared their stories of grief to get some solace from him, he saw that as a really purposeful way for him to deal with his own grief, that it gives him purpose to hear those stories and relieve some of that burden from people. i mean you know that we have talked often about at times when there's a national tragedy or an event happens and we talk about the role as president to be sort of the consoler in chief for the country. obviously of all the roles the commander in chief has to play, that's one...

Right now, they're afraid to go to the store and send their kids to school because they don't want to be next. as someone who led a state after a mass shooting, how do you lift people up during such grief and fear? >> well, it is part of the job of being a governor or a mayor or a president. you become consoler in chief. and you have to kind of be where people are. and, you know, in a fenwunny wa these shootings affect everyone, not just victims and the fast of victims, but the whole community. when you've been one of these shootings in your community, it's almost a form of trauma, when you he...

Presidents going and being consoler in chief, has that always been in our history. >> no. transportation. for example when when theodore roosevelt had to deal with the san francisco earthquake, he couldn't go to san francisco. in the modern times. tv anchors would be the ones to do it. walter cronkite would be the person, by linden johnson got in a boat and actually went at night where people were suffering and put a flashlight in his face and said, you know, i hear you, i'm hear. america loves you. and it was a great moment and nixon followed suit with hurricane camille when it hit the missis...