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Through a political lens. the president wanted a political favor. what she drove home is it was a national security threat. at one point she was asked what does vladimir putin get out of this? the goal is to disrupt democracy. and it's working. it's working. what vladimir putin wanted is happening. and she i thought put a fine point on that. >> she absolutely did. she was a stunning witness because of her moral authority. that core message she offered was the conspiracy theirry the president has put forward that has been embraced by members of ukraine is a russia talking point propagated. the ...

Away from government and depep dent on the government when they retire. this will only if the government touches it, allow them to be more dependent on the government. >> katie, never one to shy away from a good conspiracy theirry. let's say they entice you to put money into the 401k. tax breaks. so this pool gets bigger and bigger. and $19 trillion. so the big pool gets bigger and maybe they do want to manage it. may they want get to their grimy little hands on it. >> of course they do. what does the government not want to get their tax money hands on? the government needs money. this is a pl...