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All right. we really got a lot out of mayor pete buttigieg. and here are some things you have not heard before. do you believe that impeachment, forget about principle, from a pragmatic perspective, is it worth the time and energy? does it leave us in a better place? >> i think as a country it's worth it because the constitution calls for it. it's one of those moments you have to set aside the politics. i don't know what the political effects will be. i don't think we should pay attention to that. as a candidate for office, i'm going to deal with the environment that we're in. as an issue that...

Publicly expressed great misgives about trump, voting to move forward with this process. they want to make this into something partisan so they can go back to their own tribe and get them whipped up about how this is just an attempt to overturn an election, using these false arguments about what is very constitutional and calling it unconstitutional and soviet style. >> mark, chris wallace of fox news who has, francs kly, not b shy about calling out the president or his supporters, has said republicans and democrats are both doing what they believe the constitution calls for regarding impeachm...

>> this really goes to the heart of the whole son sent of the deep state. trump has branded anyone, and certainly anyone in law enforcement who stands up to him, not just as just deep state but as a traitor, somebody who might even deserve the death penalty. jim comey told me this on the record for the book he never heard the content deep state. but to him it means, yes, we do have a deep state. and thank god we do. we have a professional bureaucracy in this country who take an oath of allegiance to the constitution of the united states. they work for the people of the united states. they do n...

The office that he holds and true to his oath. i don't question the secretary of state in his actions there. i think -- you know, you mentioned meat on the bones, my friend, and i think that's where we are right now. the impeachment proceedings have moved forward, you know, not necessarily within the parameters of normal procedure historically. however, my democratic colleagues have moved forward with impeachment proceedings, so let's see the articles of impeachment. let's see the probable cause, let's see the meat on the bones. that's what the constitution calls for. let's take it from there....

Forward with his personal interaction of a phone call that the president engaged in according to as he sees best for the office that he holds and true to his oath. i don't question the secretary of state in his actions there. i think -- you know, you mentioned meat on the bones, my friend, and i think that's where we are right now. the impeachment proceedings have moved forward, you know, not necessarily within the parameters of normal procedure historically. however, my democratic colleagues have moved forward with impeachment proceedings, so let's see the articles of impeachment. let's see t...