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Even two years ago, five years ago, 10 years ago, it would have been a very different picture. so i think we have more cause for optimism now than any other time. but, you know, i'm not sure, this is not an issue that really should be decided in the courts. that's the real question here. should courts be the one making this decision? the constitution has certain things that it protects and the courts are there to defend those. they are not there important to the constitution their own belief what they believe in america. that's the job of the legislature is to say beyond what our constitutiona...

Swear an oath to be impartial jurors he's already saying to the american public this is about politics and my fealty to donald trump and not to what the constitution dictates. it's unbelievable. >> more to that point, senator, mitch mcconnell, the senate republican leader who has 53 votes is now saying he's going to do what they tell him to do from the white house, the president's lawyers to defend him in the senate trial for the continuation or not continuation of this presidency. he's going to take his orders from the president, the defendant's lawyers. he said it. >> i mean, it is shameful,...

Mueller report, and i think he has a responsibility to come out and educate and defend his findings, and i think if he does, that we will better educate the american people. if anything we learned from mr. mueller this week in his very limited appearance he feels it's incumbent upon the congress of the united states to take the appropriate actions as the constitution dictates, and, number two, that he really feels that he has done his job. he has put put forward. it's time for the house of representatives to do what it needs to do in terms of the judiciary committee and -- and at the same time...

Conscience. and a lot of people around the country and around the world can wonder how someone can get so many more votes and lose. but that is the system. that is basically what the constitution dictates. if your side won, would you basically be able to void any election results, because the electors could ultimately, as you say, vote their conscience, regardless of the results in the states? >> quite honestly, the framers of the constitution, alexander hamilton, envisioned an electoral college for the purpose of having electors get together in their state capitals and vote, specifically, to ...

You know, i don't think it's about sorting out and giving credit to one side or the other. >> uma: do you think, though, we have a pause in military action against syria, because russia and syria were concerned about the military strike power in the sense that they were concerned something would iminnocently going to happen? or did this happen due to incompetence by the white house? >> this is a little hard to tell whether it was on purpose or inadvertent. i would say you can make a couple of arguments. make an argument only with the threat of force they would have done this. you can make an a...