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Basically everything in this. does that make any sense to you? >> either jack of all trades? is he the master of none? or one? because he's not an attorney, as you said. not acting as a -- as a -- consultant or lobbyist. >> yeah. >> but if he is a consultant, the question ultimately becomes, what were the services expected? what were the services provided? and -- >> or not provided in the case, in this case, which they say they didn't get what they paid for. >> because he is, he's acting pursuant to a contract that we would like to see the terms of. what exactly was expected of him, because th...