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Specific group of irs e-mails. they have gotten a ton but think these are the ones they need. there is a lot of pressure on this. >> congressional investigators are combing through thousands of pages looking at the material and more are expected as the top republicans call were for a deeper probe. >> the american people are not going to believe that no body is at fault and this was an accident and rogue people in cincinnati. >> reporter: with attorney general eric holder wanting to leave they may go through a the motions of a contempt case of lois lerner to a grand jury.

Remember the government's botched gun running operation? >> but the guns they sent to track them down ended up getting a border agent killed. the justice department is being asked to explain as more arms are turning up. and a contempt case is moving forward. hi william. >> well martha you know we know what happened in fast and furious. now it is about who is responsible and holding them accountable. last year the house found holder in contempt. president obama stepped in and stopped them claiming executive privilege. that prompted them to contact a federal judge. we expect a ruling in the next...

>> that was what i wanted to ask you about. you have done the work tabulating where they are, are we seeing the fees go up quicker in states where we have seen deeper cuts in judicial systems? >> there's not a clear relationship in the data and trend, but there is a clear trend upward in terms of the activity. they're becoming much more active as they feel the pressure whether it's real or imagined. there's more activity from the court systems trying to sell the funds. >> there was concern about the overall legality of this. is this constitutional? >> it shouldn't be constitutional to put some...

Needs to be funded. and they're looking for people to pay. they can't force the legislature, but they have every client in front of them. >> that was what i wanted to ask you about. you have done the work tabulating where these fees are. are we seeing them go up quicker in the states where we have seen deeper cuts in judicial systems? >> there's not a clear relationship in the data and trend, but there is a clear trend upward in terms of the activity. legislatures and court systems are becoming much more active as they feel the pressure whether it's real or imagined. so it's not a one-to-one. ...

Tabulating where they are, are we seeing the fees go up quicker in states where we have seen deeper cuts in judicial systems? >> there's not a clear relationship in the data and trend, but there is a clear trend upward in terms of the activity. they're becoming much more active as they feel the pressure whether it's real or imagined. there's more activity from the court systems trying to sell the funds. >> there was concern about the overall legality of this. is this constitutional? >> it shouldn't be constitutional to put somebody in a cage for not paying a fee they can't pay. however, there ...