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Reaction from darrell issa's spokesman about this. a written statement where they say, chairman issa specifically informed ms. lerner of the committee's determination that she had waived her fifth amendment right not to answer her questions. he then offered her fair warning that a refusal to answer could lead to a contempt finding which ultimately must be made by the full house of representatives. what's your reaction to that statement, stan? the case is made clear, many he's got to overrule her objection in an explicit way and give her an opportunity to comply or not. >> and the court looks f...

A written statement where they say, chairman issa specifically informed ms. lerner of the committee's determination that she had waived her fifth amendment right not to answer her questions. he then offered her fair warning that a refusal to answer could lead to a contempt finding which ultimately must be made by the full house of representatives. what's your reaction to that statement, stan? the case is made clear, many he's got to overrule her objection in an explicit way and give her an opportunity to comply or not. >> and the court looks for all of that specifically in the record of the he...

Saying investigate the tea parties, you have individuals saying they did it, but those letters made no difference. the president benefiting made no difference. again, wolf, the important thing from the ig, the takeaway that the oversight committee will be doing in addition to ways and means, is making sure the controls are put in, sort of like the enron scandal, and the worldcom scandal. if public companies can't be trusted when they put something out, it affects the market. if the government can't be trusted when they take your taxes, we need to make sure it will be. >> the president is about...

>> of course. let's discuss what we just heard. gloria borger is here, joe johns is here. not every day, joe, that you hear a chairman of a powerful committee in the house of representatives that it's behavior that is unacceptable. >> it's a question about whether there was a tradeoff from the dropping of a lawsuit in exchange for keeping a case from going to the supreme court. it's the kind of thing that can create fireworks on capitol hill. but very, very difficult to explain to the americans. >> the labor secretary could be in trouble right now. >> i think what we heard from darrell issa ...

Integrity, the president acted. and so the point is this is a case where we expect to see the president make some heads roll. so i don't know definitively that the president is going to announce that anybody is losing their job. but i wouldn't be surprised if we see the president say that severe consequences either have resulted from the ig's report or will. we do know that he met with senior treasury officials this afternoon and that the treasury secretary is in charge and directing the treasury secretary to carry out, make sure that people were held accountable. we'll see if he has decided a...