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House, or a veteran member of congress like mr. cummings, these could jeopardize the white house's ability to continue to build relationships this fall as they try to go after issues like prescription drug reform. >> boyd, quickly on this, how big of a deal is this? will we forget about this in another week with the president potentially coming up with another statement or another move here? >> i think you're right, richard, and i think this is what the problem in our country is. the more we have a political polarization problem, we have a contempt problem where we dehumanize and weaponize eve...

That goes beyond civility and tolerance, it involved a love for each other and our country. in his book he writes "we don't have an anger problem, we have a contempt problem. when someone treats you with contempt you never forget it" voining me now is arthur brooks. there is some great material in this book, i know you thought about and wrote about it a lot in the past. you might say some are beyond the pale. there are awful people that advocate ideas that are wrong. anyone that can't tell the difference between an ordinary bernie sanders support and a sta stallanist revolutionary is

Had the first black governor. so he needs to step aside and justin fairfax should be the leader of that state. >> boyd? >> i think one of the interesting that's come out of the last 24 to 36 hours with governor northam is really i think, excuse me, the epitome of what's happening in the country. that is a whole thing of contempt. and when you have this belief and the worthlessness of another individual, you can say and do whatever you like. whatever there is based on race, gender or religion or whatever it may be. and it goes way beyond politics as well.we have to do is get to a place where we...