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Where i was sitting, in fact. on the mezzanine level of the hotel, we found rick santorum. he was a special guest on wbz 1030, a big powerful news radio station out of boston, hosted by dan ray, great host, running the rodeo, fielding the calls, keeping people on point. i think once senator santorum realized we were there he wanted to keep taking calls on wbz all night. sooner or later you have to stop at least for the ads. >> on the contraception issue, you said you were mischaracterized, do you think the country would be better off if there was less contraception? you talked about the libert...

Country. the whole sexual liberty idea, many in the christian faith said well that is okay, contraception is okay, it's not okay. it's a license to do things in a sexual realm that is counter to what how things are supposed to be. >> president santorum's america, birth control is a sexual l liberdine idea. the moderators tried to nail the contraception issue down. that effort was mostly derailed by mitt romney purporting not to understand the question. he was asked whether states can ban birth control if they ought to make birth control illegal. >> do you believe that states have that right or...

Be. >> president santorum's america, birth control is a sexual libertine idea. the moderators tried to nail the contraception issue down. that effort was mostly derailed by mitt romney purporting not to understand the question. he was asked whether states can ban birth control, if they ought to make birth control illegal. >> do you believe that states have that right or not? >> george, i don't know whether the state has a right to ban contraception, no state wants to. the idea of you putting forward things that states might want to do that no state wants to do and ask if they can do that is si...

Whether companies like hobby lobby have to provide coverage if a private business has a religious or moral objection to it. that fits into this context insofar as we're talking about the concept of corporate personhood, and they should be entitled to the same -- that plays like the catholic church is entitled to. >> we see what is happening on these style of laws, but where do you think the court goes? >> i would know that with the hobby lobby case and the contraception issue, that's not just about about the constitution, but a about a law that gives people a right to an exemption unless the g...

This third party makes them not have to do it themselves and that they aren't advocating it and they aren't, you know, saying that abortion is good and that birth control is good. they are saying just the opposite and somehow the obama administration basically saying stop complaining, stop your belly aching. is this fair to these nuns? >> yeah. the "new york times" piling on top of, this also. "new york times" editorial board basically saying these nuns, they already had this exemption. this is a little slip of paper. they already have because they are a religious institution they should quit ...