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Bad thing? it's important to note, however, that certainly, pope francis does seem to be focusing on substance since he's become pope. he's trying to address, for instance, the banking scandals that have racked the vatican, the sex abuse scandals that have racked the vatican. so, he is very much a man of substance, not just symbolism. poppy? >> of course, we do expect them to discuss those things that they are on the same page about, but it will be interesting to find out after, if we glean anything from the meeting, do they discuss things where they are not on the same page? abortion, gay mar...

The poor, contraception mandates. >> sometimes meetings between presidents and popes have big consequences. i think the most famous example of that is when ronald reagan met with pope john paul ii, and apparently we learned years later had a secret agreement that they would work together to try to overthrow or undercut the -- the soviet empire. on the other hand, most tend to be photo-ops, meetings that are suddenly forgotten. >> what do you think this was? >> i think it was a photo-op. the holy father gave the president a copy of his apostolic exhortation called the joy of the gospels, guess ...

The administration is now saying that the system is working. much better now. and the plan offers subsidies help low income folks get coverage. also sets minimum standards for care for insurance companies. the u.s. supreme court actually has stepped in to prevent two catholic charities from being mandated to provide contraception at least for now. the charities based in denver and illinois had filed a lawsuit saying the mandate violated their religious and moral beliefs. well, the supreme court order will also delay implementing contraception mandates for dozens of religious groups that file...

Bill: spider marks, thank you for your time. martha. martha: there are new developments in the battle over the contraception mandates. seven states are now suing to block it, on first amendment grounds. so what is next? we're going to speak to the attorney general from one of those states coming u bill ill bill -- bill: also, no mr. nice guy. no way! wait until you hear what it took this mugger to get out of the way and how he got caught. >> one of my technicians walked past me and said we're being robbed, it's him, he's back, and the paper said give me all, and all was underlines, oxycodone a...

meanwhile, american workers have never been more productive. and companies like boeing are finding out that even when we can't make things faster or cheaper than china, we can make them better. our quality can be higher. and that's what america's about. that's how we're going to compete. during the state of the union i issued a challenge to america business leaders. i said, ask yourselves what you can do to bring and create jobs here in this country, and your country will do everything we can to help you succeed. and i'm encouraged. we're actually seeing a number of companies, large ...