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In the event that the president comes forward and he has to be deposed and he lies, his imperils him in a significant way. the big distinction between the mueller investigation and this is that with mueller, he could plead the fifth. in a deposition, answer the question, sir. answer the question. >> and michael zeldin, avenatti is pointing to that 1997 supreme court case involving then president bill clinton, so that gives him a precedent. how strong of a case do you think he has? >> well, he has a precedent if he's in federal court. and in the summer zervos versus trump case, he has the same ...

Election and you then say, what's the status or the non-status? no, you have to have some discussion about it. of course he knew. not only that but under section 1.4 of the code of professional responsibility as i understand it in new york you have a duty to communicate. you can't go willy nilly settling things without your client's knowledge. of course he knew. it seems like they are digging deeper for themselves. the reality is he knew. is the contract valid? will it shut her up because they're able to enforce it? if they can't enforce it, then the flood gates are open. but it sounds to me l...

The reality is he knew. is the contract valid? will it shut her up because they're enforce it? if they can't enforce it, then the flood gates are open. but it sounds to me like they got all they needed. because i believe it's a publicity play for her. i don't think -- you have to have one side or the other and everybody wins at all. she wasn't telling the truth at one time. she said it didn't happen now saying it happened. of course we heard the denials from the white house process. he knew. she knew what she was doing. and here we find ourselves them trying to set aside whether successful or ...