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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Witt Reports 20240604 18:18:00

The way, he was also alleged to have done this with karen mcdougal, the playboy playmate. So, would he be a good choice . Would David Packer be a good choice to go first . I think that being able to tell the story chronologically, it is difficult when then you have to do with different witnesses and their counsel overlap. I think the fact that this stretches back into 2015 does potentially make him an interesting choice here. I would predict we are going to hear from Hope Hicks very early on in the case. Former Trump Campaign and White House Inner Circle member, longtime very close staff who was in the room, when it happened, so to speak. He has been on the witness list. I would suspect we will be hearing from her. We will get the contacts that will then set up the october

Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Witt Reports 20240604 18:14:00

it is a huge threat for donald trump. the blistering brief we got from the office on friday really paints a picture here but i can just cut to the chase on this. there is a lot of other stuff in here about cayman islands, holding companies and all this other stuff. i encourage people to take a look at this document. the real kicker is math. the company that he got to do the bond only has a surplus of $138 million. this is a bond for $175 million but it gets worse. under new york law, an insurer is only allowed to write a risk of up to 10% of that surplus. so, the biggest thing that he could have done here is 13.8 billion. not 175 million. so, there is a very strong case to be made that night does not

Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Witt Reports 20240604 18:16:00

no, i don t think that will be the theme of this trial. a lot of this will be about documents establishing that he engaged in a coverup of a retainer agreement that he claimed falsely to have with michael cohen who worked for him for many years. so, this is going to be a case, actually, much more like a conventional business records case which is what the charges are and there will be some salacious tennis, especially early on, possibly as early as tomorrow. that is because it is expected it has not been confirmed, but it is expected that the former chair of american media which owned the national enquirer will be on the stand testifying against trump. david yes.

Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Witt Reports 20240604 18:21:00

yes, good points all them there. interestingly, jonathan, in the final minutes of the trial on friday as donald trump was standing to leave the courtroom, the judge firmly told donald trump, sir, can you please have a seat? that moment has come to represent the stripping of control from a man who used to be the most powerful person in the united states, some could argue in the world. how could you how does this impact donald trump s psyche? well, first of all, i was in the courtroom when it happened and it was a stunning, dramatic moment. you know, you have a former president of the united states who since the time he was a little boy never listen to anything anyone about anything. he was sent to military academy for being disobedient. ever since, he has never sat down when someone told him to. in this case, he had to. he sat down meekly, like the obedient little boy he never was and it was quite striking and i think it symbolizes that he is not the most powerful

Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Witt Reports 20240604 18:46:00

act like jeff bezos in the washington post, for example or other media outlets that he perceived as more liberal. we didn t but, you know, we just kept pressing ahead. any chance you d be called as a witness? me? no. definitely not. i would be able to testify. i wasn t directly involved with the actual events. they had plenty of people who can talk about that. do you think prosecutors have a slamdunk? do you see ways that donald trump could avoid accountability on this? i mean, i don t think it is ever a slamdunk. they do have a strong case because they have records and witnesses who they have the lawyer who negotiated this and they have michael cohen. they have witnesses who are involved who can cooperate stuff and talk about the records

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